UK Seminar

[Robert]

Hello my name is Robert Brenner and I am a PGSG instructor living in the United Kingdom. You can read about my background on this website in the ‘Instructors section’

This August saw, to the best of my knowledge, the first PGSG Moving Form seminar in the United Kingdom since the 1990’s when Vincent Chu used to visit us in the UK to teach.

Since that time I have become a PGSG instructor myself and have been using its methods to help and teach a small but growing number of practitioners here. Up until recently people came to learn or receive help from me on a one to one basis, however this summer I received four requests to learn the Moving Form at one time. All the people seemed determined to learn and were prepared to travel to me from London and Kent, so I decided to put on a mini-seminar at my home on the 1st and 2nd of August 2009.

The seminar was very successful and I received positive feedback from all the participants, some of whom were already experienced in other forms of qigong. One participant, ‘Hugo’ emailed this feedback to me the day after the seminar:

‘Hi Robert,

Just a quick email to thank you for yesterday’s lesson. I know it is early days but it is amazing the differences experienced from practicing only 4 moves against other more complex forms of Qi Gong.

My sensations and perceptions of Qi are much stronger now, I will definitely keep practicing this form of Qi Gong’.

I would post some photographs, but haven’t  figured how to do that yet, maybe next time!

I plan to run further seminars in the future and have a venue arranged should the numbers increase.

[Olivia]

Hi Robert,

Thank you very much for sharing your teaching experience! I'm looking forward to reading more experience from pgsg practitioners in UK.

[Richard]

Hi Robert,

  Thank you for your instructing sharing. It's really inspiring! To be honest, I just become an instructor. Let's try our best to promote extensively Pan Gu Shengong, let more people know this is really an effective way to gain health on body and spirit, even make a better world at least your surrounding place you live: Harmony!

  Cheers!

  A nice guy from Shenzhen

   Richard

[rliang]

Hi,

I'd also like to share something interesting from my PGSG teaching session too:

Couple weeks ago, I've taught two people the moving form - a mom and her son.  At first, the mom had some difficulty understand what Master Ou was saying in the beginning of the practice CD.  She also had some questions regarding the passwords.  After about half an hour of discussion, a lot of things are clearer to her.  Out of curiosity, she asked me to recite the passwords in Chinese.  So I did.  After I was done, she cover her heart with her hand and had this awe look on her face and said, "oh, wow!".  She said she doesn't know what I was saying, but she can feel it from her heart.  She said she can feel the words are coming from my heart and not just from my mouth.  I later recited the blessing poems from Master Ou that is part of the practice CD, and she had the same reaction and emotion as before.  I told her while I was reciting, I thought of how Master Ou has always recited those words and what they mean to me.
 
Of all the people I’ve taught in the past, no one has ever asked me to recite the password to them in Chinese before and to see that kind of reaction was quite interesting and amazing!

Both the mom and her son had different sensations.   The mom has more physical sensation while the son has more spiritual sensation. 

[Saber]

Very interesting reaction.  There is a tradition in Eastern meditative practices that speaks of the value of sound apart from meaning.  Often this perspective is talked about in the context of mantras.  Mantras are sounds, that could be words too, but their value lies in the effect that the quality of sound has on the nervous system.   This is similar to music, which has an effect on the nervous system that can be more powerful than words themselves.  I recently read an article in a Buddhist magazine that spoke of a monk who preferred not to lecture in the language of the listeners.  If the listeners knew English, he would lecture in French.  When asked why, he said that they would listen more closely! Perhaps the student could really listen more closely to the Chinese sound, and perhaps the Chinese sound carries a different sound quality or vibration that more easily resonated with her heart.

[rliang]

Thank you for your thoughtful insight Saber! 

There is a saying my husband and I like to use to remind each other from time to time that resonates with your idea:

"It's not what you said, it's how you say it". 

[Robert]

Hi everyone.

This discussion is becoming very interesting indeed. I have a couple of things to add.

Firstly, when I ran the UK seminar I of course emitted the initiation/foundation Qi to my new students as Master Ou asks us to do. As you all know this process is a way of fine-tuning their internal channels so that they, the students, can connect to the universal energy.

As required they all sat eyes closed, palms up as I guided them through the process. Afterwards, as is my custom, I asked each one to describe what they experienced.

Each new student reported a unique experience: one said he saw rainbow coloured lights; another that he felt a rush of energy through his arms and into his body; a third that he felt like he had become my brother and so on.

 In the time I have been a PGSG teacher I have always been fascinated and moved by the effect the Pangu Shengong system has on people and I feel it is a great honour to be a teacher.

Secondly, rliang and saber were comparing the PGSG password to a mantra. This is a subject I know a little about as I have also studied esoteric Buddhism and have learnt the Medicine Buddha dharma. In my experience both the PGSG password and the Medicine Buddha mantra produce a very special energy when recited.

However I would say that the PGSG is unique because the qi energy is produced irrespective of what language is used, English, Chinese it doesn’t matter. Also the password tells us, in our own language, how to live our lives so that we may form a closer, stronger link with that special qi energy.

[Michael]

Hi Robert, I just got an account on the new PGSG forum and found this thread; glad to find you here. We spoke a few years ago on the phone. Thanks for sharing your teaching experience. It's wonderful to hear about your students' feeling when they learn PGSG. In the past I usually didn't ask my students what they felt, but sometimes they told me on their own. Usually they just looked so amazed that I didn't want to interrupt them

[Robert]

Hi Michael

Good to see you back on the new PGSG forum; I enjoyed reading your posts on the old one (and also some of your recent ones on RSF). How is life in the Pangu heartland? Your Chinese language skills must be very good by now?

I’m always amazed at how my students experience PGSG differently yet always in a way that has a deep meaning for them.

[Michael]

Life in the Pangu heartland is always, ahem, interesting . I'll tell you something though, I went home for six weeks during the summer,  and when I got back from the USA and saw people I know in Guangzhou, friends, students, locals, foreigners, etc., almost everyone looked better than before I'd left. You have to understand the pollution here is indescribable and most people's health suffers, which shows in their skin, hair, and eyes. When I got back to Guangzhou after my vacation, it appeared to me that the faces and skin of almost everyone I knew looked significantly better, more colorful, not so dull and gray. One longtime co-worker whose skin had been turning black around her face, a common problem here, looked normal again. Could be a trick of the light, but I dunno. A couple of my friends even said I looked better. LOL

I knew a girl here, early 30's, wealthy, eats good food, lives in nice apartments, looks like most girls her age who've grown up in Guangzhou. She went to visit relatives on the West Coast of the USA & Canada in Vancouver and San Francisco for 6-8 weeks and called me when she got back. We arranged a meeting, but at he appointed time and place, I couldn't find her. Eventually, I heard someone calling my name, so I looked around and didn't recognize a soul. Suddenly, this bright-eyed girl in her early 30's with lovely skin and shiny hair, excellent posture and a clarion voice was standing in front of me. It took me some time to realize she was the same girl I'd known because everything energetic about her appearance had changed for the better. I saw her again about a month later and it had all reverted back to local standards. Was it the sunshine? The food? The air? The water? What was it about 2 months in North America that had changed her so?

One clue may be the fact that I never get sunburns in Guangzhou, which is much farther south in latitude than where I grew up, although back in America I *always* got sunburns. During my trip home, I got a sunburn after 10 minutes outside on a Los Angeles beach. Back in Guangzhou, nothing. Spoke to a foreigner from Italy who's lived here for decades and he says the same thing. Back in Italy, he gets burned immediately, but even on the beaches of Hong Kong, nothing. He theorizes that the pollution in the air blocks the UV. That and it collects quickly on your skin. Taking a shower here after an hour of bike riding is like going from black to white!

So that's part of life in the Pangu heartland. Everything else is fabulous.   

As far as language skills, I have only spent about an hour listening to some Cantonese MP3's several years ago learning how to perfectly say, "I don't know how to speak Cantonese," and "I don't understand," so except for these phrases, some nouns for ordering food, and telling taxi drivers how to find my apartment, my Chinese language skills are practically non-existent at this time.

Sent you a PM.

[Beautifulice]

    Nows a day in China the pollution is indeed horrible.  My hometown, Guangdong province, has the same situation.  Nevertheless, this condition showed even more how miraculous Pan Gu Shengong is.  

    I attended the advance training camp in Hong Kong from Sept 4th to Sept 6th, and I got a chance to meet a wonderful Pan Gu Shengong student named Zhou Feng Ling.  I realized that her face always had great complexion radiating happiness and appreciation.  She was in excellent fettle all the time.  She was one of the dancers in Master Ou’s concert and her performance on the stage was graceful and dynamic.  In the last day of the camp I eventually knew that in the past she had liver cancer in the last stage.  Her doctor told her that she had one more month to live without having a surgery; even if she would have a surgery, she may only extend her life eight more months.  Very fortunately she learned Pan Gu Shengong.  After practicing it for a week, she could stand up; therefore, she spent more time, at least seven hours a day, in doing the practice.  She brought all Master Ou’s books, and she diligently studied them and applied the theories in actions.  She did what she could to love people around her and she gave many healings to patients.  She also brought all Master Ou’s CDs and learned to sing his songs.  She sang them very well.  (By the way, Jason also attended the advance training camp and the trip to China.  He learned two of Master Ou’s songs in a very short time.  He could sing “The Pan Gu Shengong Song” in Chinese very well too, 100% right!  That was amazing!) After three months of practice, she went to hospital and did physical examinations.  The result showed that all her cancer cells were gone, and more interestingly, it showed that her hepatitis B which she had for more than twenty years also recovered.  Her friends reflected that she looked ten years younger than before and her skin looked more beautiful.  

    From Zhou Feng Ling’s experience, we can see that Pan Gu Shengong not only can help patients, who have untreatable diseases like cancers, recover completely but also can help people restore their vitality to look younger and younger, despite the pollution is so serious in Guangzhou.  

Hi Robert,  If you have a chance in the future, you got to have a trip with Master Ou!  You might have seen Jason’s post in the forum, which reflected how much he gained from the trip.  
 

[Robert]

Hi Beautifulice

PGSG can indeed do some amazing things, helping people overcome all kinds of health issues.

I would love go on one of Master Ou's trips and hope to do so in the future.

Robert

[Beautifulice]

Hi Robert,

I am sure that will be fantastic and inspirational!

Pan Gu Shengong is more than a perfect practice which helps people recover from all kinds of illnesses.  I learned that in this advance training camp that it is part of Pan Gu culture and it eventually helps people overcome all kinds of issues deep down their heart and soul and help them become a kinder, healthier and happier person.  I met with so many outstanding Pan Gu Shengong students in the camp and I learned a lot from them.  Richard (Kind) is one of them.  You might want to see his post in http://www.pangu.org/smf/index.php?topic=67.0
His post is very meaningful to me.